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2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Piece of Junk

by Steve
(Danville, Ca)

2004 Grand Cherokee (File Photo)

2004 Grand Cherokee (File Photo)

About 6 years ago my mom bought her first new car in her life.

A 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland. Fully loaded, HO V8, leather, etc.. Cost her almost $40,000. At any rate, it now has about 60,000 miles. I have a 4Runner with 300,000 miles that has had less repairs to it.

The emergency brake cable broke. The power steering pump went out at 35,000. The heat/ac vent broke and was replaced under warranty. A year later, it broke again not under warranty. $1700 to fix it.

A year later, broke again, fixed it myself. The wiring harness for the heat/ac fan melted...$500 estimate to fix it, fixed myself for $30.
The seat heater got super hot. Was recalled and fixed.

The newest problem is all of the weather stripping around the front and rear doors is falling off.

What a piece of crap!

She could've gotten a Lexus or an Acura or a BMW, but she wanted to buy American. What a mistake. Now, 6 tears later, her $40,000 Jeep is worth $13,000.

What a joke.


Larry's Comment: Sorry to hear that your mom had so much trouble with her Grand Cherokee Steve.

Is anyone else out there having this kind of difficulty with your Grand Cherokee...especially after 2002? Or...is this just a story about a particular "lemon" (which often happens with any make or model vehicle)?

I would like to know. Please enter your comments below.




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2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland Piece of Junk

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Grand Cherokee Opinion
by: Andrew Glinski

I owned a 1997 Fully Loaded Grand Cherokee Limited 5.2 Liter V8 w/ Quadra-Drive. I owned it from 28k miles to 55k miles. No problems except when I put it in 4wd Lo and went too fast I snapped front Drive Shaft. And it never drove quite smooth again. So I sold it and called it a wash.

Ontario, Canada
by: Lyle

Steve's story strikes a familiar note. The seat heaters in my '04 G.C. Limited have been recalled for overheating....twice. The door weatherstrip trim is also melting away. The hood will no longer stay open. I would have replaced the hood struts, but the design has been changed to a coiled spring hinge...wonder why?...and struts are not available. New hinges are on order now for $280!

On the brighter side, and this might help other G.C. owners with Quadradrive.....the differential oil was replaced recently at 72K miles as suggested in the service manual. Soon after, it developed a loud binding (groaning) noise in the front diff. during slow turns. The dealer's mechanic explained why, put more limited slip additive in and, it's all fixed...for $10.

Overall, this Jeep has been OK. But just OK. Not nearly as good as the '97 it replaced. That one was absolutely bullet proof. Jeep has to do better for a vehicle that costs well over 40 large.

I've been waiting for the 2011 to get here, but now with the new redesigned 2010 4Runner at a lower price....well????

Darn Overland
by: Anonymous

My window regulator broke, suspension went out, CV joints, electrical problems, you name it I've had it with my Jeep. I have been fixing most of them myself BUT OMG!!! Whatever happened to top of the line?

So Far So Good
by: R.J.

I recently bought a 2004 G.C. Overland model. I bought it used and took it to my mechanic who went through it with a fine tooth comb. Result, a very sound vehicle with 73,000 miles on it. My son has a 1999 G.C. with over 200,000 miles on it and still going strong. I like Jeep products and will continue to buy them.

2004 overland, so many problems!!
by: Anonymous

I have a 2004 overland and all I have had are problems with the car. I bought it in 2007 and immediately had to have the heating and air system replaced...when the a/c was on, it had heat coming out. And the window track had to be replaced. Then I had to have the ignition switch replaced, heated seats were recalled, weather stripping on back door has come loose, the power steering line had to be replace, and now, - just yesterday it decided to die on me. Thought it was the battery,or alternator, but they tested fine. Turns out it "may" be the starter...and last night once I got it running again, it started blowing extremely hot air from the vents, when the a/c was turned to lo. So, that sounds like the original problem has returned from 2007, when I first bought it. I am at a loss. I just want to get rid of it at this point. It's a great looking car, but most important part-- the internal organs SUCK!

An isolated incident..
by: Steve

I bought a 2004 Overland a year ago. It had 51,000 miles on it. The vehicle has been virtually flawless. And, I've spoken to several people with these and they too have been extremely happy.

It is not a piece of crap by any means. But like any other vehicle, there will be lemons out there.

JEEPS BEST VEHICLE I'VE OWNED
by: Ralph P

I have had many cars in my life, always used never even bought one from a dealer's lot. I have never been a 4x4 guy-(Lincolns, Caddys, Monte CARLOS...)

I bought my first Jeep in `06. First because I wanted a SUV, second, because I liked the way the Jeep looked, and third, I see them everywhere!!!

I live in NY and if you walk outside you will spot a Grand Cherokee within 5 minutes Guaranteed!!! So I figured If so many people had them they must be good.

I was right! My first GC was a `99 limited with 86,000 miles that I had 2 years. It was great, and then I decided to upgrade. I did have that A/C problem, but it was getting colder anyway.

I got a 2004 Grand Cherokee Overland with 57,000 mile and it is AWESOME! I cut through any snowstorm while other SUV`s are stuck, and the 4.7L, 8-cylinder has got balls!!!

I love my Jeep! Best medium size SUV on the road today!!!

De ja vu
by: Mellissa

Wow my 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee has experienced all of the same problems along with the drivers side rear view mirror which was supposed to be heated over heating and melting inside out.

I can hardly see out of it but have not replaced it yet because the going price is over $400 for a rear view mirror.

I also had to have the transmission rebuilt which was covered on my extended warranty, but I paid for that anyway so I guess you could say that repair cost me $3600 or whatever the warranty amount was that I paid the dealer.

Very disappointing for the price of this car. Now has 140,000 miles on it and is burning oil at an awful rate adding oil every 300 miles or so.

I needed this car to run to 180,000-200,000 miles based on what I paid for it and the needs of my family and budget, but doubtful that it will make it.

2004 Jeep Overland = crap!
by: Anonymous

Air went out 3 times @ 1600 bucks a pop to fix. Window motor is gone. Weather stripping is gone on 2 doors. This is my first and last Jeep.

Problems w/ 2004 Overland
by: Ric

I have owned 4 Jeeps, currently own 2. The 2004 Overland is the worst auto I have owned except for Dodge Durango. Power steering pump and hoses went at 45000 mi. No heat situation now at 58,000 mi. Weatherstripping falling off along w/ a host of other issues. Biggest disappointment is the current heat problem which I am told could run a lot of money. I'm quite sure Jeep lost me as a customer.

2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee=AWESOME
by: Scott

Sorry to hear about this. Sounds like the Jeep was a lemon from the factory. Just want to say my parents have had 3 Grand Cherokee's (93,97,01) throughout the years. All of them had the 4.0L I6 which is a great engine, bullet-proof in my opinion. Never had any major problems with them and all lasted with over 100K (93 was 180K).

I now have a 2004 Grand Cherokee Overland with that awesome 4.7L HO V8. Man I love that engine. There's so much torque and I can really scare the ricers with it. It is my first car (I'm 17) and I take great care of it. Bought it with 75,000 miles and now have about 80,000. Absolutely nothing wrong when I bought it. All I did was slap on new tires and perform an oil change. I recently added a Flowmaster muffler which sounds great. Overall I'm a Jeep guy. Grew up with them, now I have one of my own and love it. I'm so happy I got this for my first car and I have no doubt it will last me for a long time to come.

Worst Car
by: Anonymous

I have had all the same problems:
-Window motors broke
-Drivers side rear view mirror broke
-Extremely hot heated seats
-Heater/AC broke numerous times
-Battery died
-Power steering pump and hose had to be replaced
-All of the electronics in the car malfunctioned numerous times, the gauges didn't work, the windows didn't work.

I don't feel safe in this car.

Bought the car for $12,000. I have spent over half that in repairs and every few days/weeks something new goes wrong.

Biggest mistake I ever made. It's a shame Chrysler puts lemons like this on the market. Obviously not a unique situation either, since clearly many people have had very similar problems.

I read that they were thinking of recalling this particular model because the gas tank could potentially explode in an accident due to it's location in the vehicle.

Piece?
by: Nathan

Yeah I would have to agree with the first post.... Looks nice and that's about it. Stuff falls apart twice as much as my 1999 Camaro with a 120k on it, and I drive the hell out of the car.

Like 3 of the 4 a/c vents are broken which the dash has to be removed to replace a 40 dollar part. Radio knobs are bent and broken off. I have had to replace 2 inside door handles, transfer case twice, and this is all with 62k on it.

Trail certified??? I would feel safer driving on trails in the Camaro.

I agree that they are Junck
by: Anonymous

Same problems but add the Rotors. My wife and I bought it new for around the 40K price. We have spent thousands on repairs. We have had several Jeep Grand Cherokees none of them have been as horrible as this one.

I rode in the passenger side today...the wind noise is soooo loud that it makes me sick...we have already replaced all the rubber. I am not as handy as most of you, we have brought it in for most repairs. The last bill was for over $2,200 which included upgraded rotors & work on the heating system. It will be our last.

asking for punishment
by: Kane

I own several Jeep vehicles at the current moment and wrench on offroad Jeep Rigs. And have owned around 10 in the past 3 years. The 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee overland edition has by far been the biggest piece of Sh*# !! With a window sticker price of $43K it has been a big kick in the groin to own one.
Here is a list of problems
-Seat heaters
-3 broke window regulators within 1 year
-driver side floor board fills with water
-Tranny wont shift into OD and starts off in 2nd gear.
- exhaust leak between header and pipe
- front diff groaning
- rain sensor broke and hanging off windshield

Luv my Jeep!
by: Ron Coulter

I bought my '04 Overland a few months ago, cheap enough that if it was junk i could unload it on some other unsuspecting sap. This is my third Jeep and it is a fantastic machine. First was a Wrangler, then a Cherokee Sport. My wife and I just got back from a 3700 km drive over New Year's from Canada to Dallas and back. Zero issues and decent fuel economy. I'm sorry some folks have had bad luck with theirs, but I'll get another one when the time comes.

2004 G cherokee problems ditto
by: ABA in Canada

I too have suffered the same and more problems. Heater/AC, weather stripping, power steering, torque converter lock up, seat heaters which were recalled and now don't work, the air pump clatters in cold weather,the air pressure monitors are constantly reading an error. After owning a 94 Jeep with almost 400,000 kms. on it and no problems the new improved version is a disappointment.

Overland of 2004 is junk
by: Anonymous

I bought this Jeep about 3 years ago with 29k miles on it. I had no problems with it for first two years. When it turned over 50k I had all the fluids changed in the trans front and rear end it cost me almost $500 to have everything done.

Not long after that the cruise control stopped working. The #1 cyl. stopped firing and the trans. started to slip.

Now it has 77k miles on it and I have to buy a new motor for it and the motor is a 4.7 H.O. with the vin code j not a easy motor to find. Then if you want a new motor or reman. it costs $4,000+ for a long block.

So to sum it all up I bought a high dollar car and did everything your suppose to do, and took care of it like a baby. And now I just have a piece of #&*@ I can't drive. I WILL NEVER BUY A JEEP AGAIN.

2004 Jeep Overland 170,000 miles
by: Anonymous

We have a 2004 Overland 170,000 miles still running good, but the weather stripping is rusted bad. Other than that everything is good. I would say buy one with a lot of miles so everything that could go wrong has happened already. Hope that helps.

Mine is fine
by: Anonymous

When you read everything on here, stop and think for a minute how many of these that Jeep made. Mine has 170,000 and still looks great and runs great. You will find bad ones, but look up a BMW SUV and you will see the same thing. Every producer will have bad ones. Think about it.

04 Grand Cherokee Overland
by: Anonymous

Love the Jeep, but, as mentioned above:
Seat heaters replaced, power steering pump replaced and hoses, radiator busted open and had to be replaced, both front door window regulators replaced, blower motor and harness replaced with upgraded parts, air flaps in heating/cooling system have been replaced. Bought used with 80,000 miles so all this between 80 and 120,000 miles. I put 150,000 on my Toyota Tacoma and I replaced the brakes rotor once.
I did have the 4 wheel drive system serviced when I heard a slight noise when turning, everything is Ok now. I really like my Jeep.
Mike in NC

Can this thing get stolen already?
by: POS

- Heating transistor replaced
- 4 window regulators replaced (every single window)
- Water pump replaced
- Power steering high pressure line replaced
- Rear axle replaced, apparently the thread that lead into the unit does not have the surface area to hold up. (superb engineering?)

I have a 85' Toyota pickup that has had fewer problems over its 250,000 plus mile lifespan.

Heating 2004 Overland
by: Anonymous

Managed to solve a problem myself! The heating was back to front on the controls. Hot was cold and cold was hot, and windows and electric mirrors did not. Traced the problem to two broken wires in the wiring loom between the drivers door and the frame of the car. Once these wires were reconnected everything worked perfectly, a common problem I heard.

2004 jeep grand cherokee
by: Anonymous

I purchased my Jeep in '08 and it is a '04...don't think I will be buying another Jeep in the future. 1. defrost does not work on any window except the front window. 2. the back window weather stripping is loose. 3. the front driver window stripping is melting. 4. the heat and blower went out on me twice. 5. the dash light area that shows the gears went out. 6. now I have a huge power steering leak. Sounds like that's an on-going problem with everyone's Jeep..

Yes
by: Dan Badyrka

Yes I have all the same problems with the same Jeep. I hate this Jeep more than I hate terrorism! And to top it off I can't get rid of the thing.

2004 Grand Cherokee is crap
by: Anonymous

Maybe some have had few problems with their Grand Cherokee's, however I hate mine.
I purchased my 2004 in 2007 with 35,000 miles. Since then it has been almost a monthly pain in my rear. I could list all that has gone wrong but I will keep it short. The front axle burned out (this thing has never seen off road), had to get one from a junk yard. The engine will periodically burn a battery out to dead, but then be fine for weeks. Weather stripping all coming off. Brakes need replaced and or serviced every 10,000 miles. Strange leaks coming from all parts of the drive train. Burns through tires (good tires, not cheap ones). This thing is a bunch of Junk, and WAY overpriced. Now its worth like $7000, List price in 2004 was $39,000 and change. I took care of it and babied it, and nothing has helped keep it trust worthy. DON'T buy one. However, I will say that the older TJ Wranglers hold up well and I have liked them in the past. Jeep should stick to the Wrangler thing.

'04 Gr.Cher. SO "not a piece of junk"
by: Not Anonymous

I own an '04 Jeep Gr. Cher. Overland QuadraDrive 4.7L H.O. w/ 126,000 mi. Couldn't disagree more. Beside the obvious cost of owning a luxury SUV, I've never had a safer or more capable vehicle! As far as the weatherstripping, buy some glue and buy American. Get a clue! I would have pitted my jeep against a brand new 4-Runner. Since your 4 Runner is probably not "running" anymore I'm Left to beat more Hummers in comp.

Tool Bag
by: Anonymous

Dude, you're a tool bag.

Overland =
by: nyjpr

Bought mine in '07 (certified) from dealer with 40k miles. Now 81k...2 power steering units, 1 instrument cluster, 1 driver door seal, 1 radiator, 1 set of front rotors and 2 front pads 1 rear pad, +basic maintenance, 2 recalls...1 set of tires Kuhmo kl61 a/t (purchased over winter)...I just bought 2nd warranty(Jeep maxi care $200 deduct)...my 1st finished @ 80k miles.

With all that said...I luv my Jeep...It's shockingly fast, smooth and it's all weather/terrain prowess is unbeatable...a lot was done the 1st couple of months I had it, i.e.: instrument cluster, brakes, and door seal...but all was covered under warranty.

New York City streets can beat up a vehicle...but with the Overland I feel as if I always still have the edge oIIIIIIIo !!!!!

JUNK!!!
by: Anonymous

YEP,, JUNK!! Took to dealership 7 times for heater/ac issues. Still can't fix it! I give up. As expensive of a vehicle this is, what a dissapointment! The climatic control system sucks! It blows heat out of the floor vents, when its not even on! One minute it works, the next it doesn't. Had to replace both window motors, transfer case, you name it and it's been done! Now the warranty is out, and I'm screwed! I had a '96 Cherokee before this and it was great. Stick to the basic Jeep, not the fancy overloaded piece of junk! And they tell me there are no lemon laws in my state if you buy it used. Thanks Jeep!

Gotta agree
by: Anonymous

Have a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee and have had more repairs than ever required on ANY OF MY FORDS. It's 101 degrees today and AC will not work. Last winter had to stop twice to scrape my windshield...no defrost...sometimes it works sometimes it does not. Spent a fortune so the front windows would work again. Very expensive vehicle to own and operate. BIG MISTAKE!

Lemons
by: Anonymous

Our 2004 luxury jeep is nothing but a piece of crap. It needs fix after fix after fix, and now it sounds as if the tranny is going out, and it has rear end mechanical problems. We also got it to buy American which sadly won't be the case again. They are nothing but lemons.

Disappointed
by: Anonymous

I bought a 2004 GC LMTD with 76k on it in Ontario 3 years ago and here are my issues:

-water pump went
-weather striping on drivers door
-ground wire in pass door broke and repaired twice
-brakes and tires (which I am OK with)
-driver headlight all yellow
-recall on heated seats
-driver side mirror won't work on memory
Same mirror went all discolour (auto dim seal broke) found replacement with no auto dim but everything else for $50 US on line.
-trim at bottom of all windows is rusting underneath and staining the paint
-Pain peeling off plastic trim behind front wheels
-rear wiper quit working and had to replace
-hood won't stay open
-bearings are now gone in something under hood and AC just quit working so back to the shop again.
-Also the rear seat leg room is terrible and the floor mounts on the seat and the hood and lift gate are starting to rust.
-Also i noticed last week the trans is starting to take too long to shift into gear.

I baby this thing and wash it regularly. It is awesome in the snow and the engine makes a ton of power. It drives great but with 146km (90k miles) it is costing me way to much to run. I will be buying a 4 Runner or Highlander next. My 2001 Saturn runs more consistently than this thing and I paid $2200 for it 2 yrs ago!

2004 Grand Cherokee Overland
by: Norm

I bought a 2004 Jeep GC Overland 2 years ago with 72,000 miles on it. I've only put about 6,000 miles on it because of the bad gas mileage. Here are the things that have gone wrong with it:
1. Dual zone blend doors broke
2. Hood struts don't hold hood up
3. Weather stripping around doors keeps falling down.
4. There's a grinding noise and the front wheels skip when turning sharply.
5. There's a recall on the heated seats that I haven't had fixed yet.
6. The air bag lights stays on all the time.
7. Last week while on vacation, 2 window regulators broke. Got them fixed last night.

I have a 1998 GC with the 4.0L engine that has over 220,000 miles on it. It's been bullet proof and I trust it more than my 2004 Overland. If I ever buy another jeep, it's going to be an older one. I'm afraid to think how many more things may have gone wrong with my Overland if it was a daily driver. Many of the same problems that people are having should have been fixed under recalls. I think Jeep was negligent in not doing that.

2004 Overland
by: Anonymous

77k on mine and not a single issue, absolutely flawless...

2004 Jeep Cherokee Overland 4.7 AWD
by: Gina C - Balto., MD

I bought my fully loaded piece of crap Jeep about two years ago after my '99 Toyota Camry with 199,000 miles started to experience engine problems.

I've only put 23,000 highway miles on my Jeep and to my surprise the engine light came on, so I put it in the shop.

I was just informed today that the water pump failed and as a result it warped the left head gasket. To make matters even worse the worthless warranty company (Fidelity Warranty Services) is only going to pay to replace the water pump but not the $2900.00 head gasket...really Fidelity? Thanks for nothing, thieves.

This is the first and LAST time I will EVER buy an American made vehicle. I'm trading this piece of crap in for a Hyundai. At least then I know I'll be buying a reliable vehicle that won't drain my pockets.

Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge should not be allowed to manufacture automobiles because they don't know what they're doing. Who are they employing to assemble them? Monkey's?!!!!!!




Junk
by: Anonymous

Windows in back won't come up. Windows in front won't roll down. Heat or air does not work. Drivers mirror broke. Heat in seats way to hot. Makes loud noise when turning to the right. Shut the car off and all kinds of noise from dash. I hate it.

I loved my '97 Jeep. but the Overland sucks!

Great Jeep!
by: Anonymous

I have a 2004 Overland fully loaded and it has 220,000 plus miles! I love it! It does have some issues...but don't we all? Overall I'm glad with the purchase and will consider a Jeep in the future!

OMG I have the same issue as the first story
by: Anonymous

Can I just say that I thought I was reading my story already written. I have had the exact same problems plus some. I HATE my jeep the only reason I still have it is because I spent a fortune on it too. What a piece of crap it is.

We love our Jeeps
by: Russell Baker

We currently are down to 3 Grand Cherokees, but have owned 7 since '96. All were purchased used, with anywhere from 70K to 140K on them. I do my own maintenance, and while there have been some minor problems, we have never had a catastrophic failure of major parts.

We started with a '93/4.0L, (sold at 247K miles). That was replaced with a '96/4.0 (sold at 258K) and a '96/4.7 (sold at 239K). We added a '98/4.0 for my son, who is still driving it 168K. We added a '05 Hemi for my wife's daily driver, which only has 87K. We recently purchased 2 '04/4.7s, both with about 140K.

None of the motors have used oil between changes, but I have always used high mileage oil (green bottle), and Tough Guard filters.

Three of the 7 cars have had to have at least one of the rear axle seals replaced. One needed a water pump at 220K. Two radiators have been replaced due to stone damage, and a couple CV joints have died.

I had purchased the 2004 Overland for my son, who left Maryland on a 4 month cross country adventure to San Diego 2 days after we got the car. It had zero problems until the steering wheel mounted radio controls quit working. Bad Clockspring. I'm selling that one only because my son has started the SEAL program, and won't need a car for a couple years.

Most every brand has it's problems, but when in 2' of snow, or 6" of mud, I'll take a JEEP!!!


Don't be fooled into getting rid of it
by: NICK

All of you are making big a mistake. Spent £1300 on new alternator, starter motor, new battery, and pcm key module.

Put it in to main dealer instead of silly garage mechanics because what I am reading in all these comments I've had the same symptoms with my Grand Cherokee 4.7 HO Overland 2004.

Now it is fixed tops up. It was two wires running from pcm to alternator that had slight break in wiring causing all this erratic behavior. It's now running perfect. Revs not dropping below 500 rpm because the computer does the work all for £136.00, and very rare that the computer gives up its called gen field on pcm that they can read at the main Jeep dealer when they plug it in.

Don't be fobbed off with its the voltage regulator in the main ecu. This could save you thousands instead of scrapping yours. Love my Jeep..best drive ever.

Jeep currently has the best quality JD Power
by: Anonymous

Any Chrysler product built during the years when the company was owned by DaimlerBenz was a cost chopped failed experiment. Now that they are owned by Fiat they are climbing the quality charts again, just look up the 2011/2012 GC Overland and see. Don't blame the American worker, blame poor German management that not only ruined their vehicles but landed the Company in bankruptcy.

'02 Overland
by: Anonymous

Not much I haven't replaced on mine. They are JUNK.
Will never buy another.

Should have bought TWO! One for parts!

Trouble comes in a 2004 Jeep Overland v8
by: picard v

Yes, my experience is almost the same as Steve's mother. Purchased for 40k the heat/ac vent wouldn't work correctly and still does not. They so-called fixed it during warranty, then $950.00 for the ac to work, but the heat works only on "high". Seat heaters have a mind of their own. They love to be working when its 80 degrees outside, so who needs it?

Now u-joint rusted and exhaust system needed repair only have 70,000 miles full maintenance on it and still runs like a piece of junk. Yes I should have purchased the BMW or the Lexus.

I hate the 2004 Jeep Cherokee Overland. The only good thing about my Jeep is the seats are comfortable in front, but the heat is on when you don't need heated seats! Lemon!

2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
by: Kris Duttlinger

I have had the differential go bad, the blend doors break, the heated seats stop working, the Infiniti speakers stop working...but now the 4.7 lost oil pressure due to plugged oil journals and blew the motor. The replacement motor is almost $5k...it looks great but it's a very expensive piece of junk that literally eats brake pads...

2001 Overland draining me dry
by: Judy

Always wanted a Jeep, and finally was able to afford one. First 50K miles were ok, except for the brake pads and rotors...boy do they go fast! Then it began. Leaks here and there, emergency brake is frozen, power steering unit went out, AC unit went out, heated seats, fixed twice and still don't work, and on, and on. And I am a freak about regular maintenance on my vehicles. I've only got 78K mi on it right now, hell, my Lumina van went 200K with only minor issues and alot more abuse. Bought an overland for off-road fun but I'm afraid to even drive it on the interstate! So sad.

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