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Jeeps Suck

by Chevy Man
(Fort Worth, Tx)

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All of you dumb a***s that pay too much money for something that I wouldn't waste two dollars on.

I wouldn't mind having one just to keep out in my field just to cover in mud, but to pay 5000 dollars for a Jeep is stupid.

Larry's Comment: You're quite right about Jeeps often being overpriced...but I'd rather have an overpriced go anywhere Jeep than being a dime-a-dozen "Chevy Man"...any day.

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Re: Jeeps Suck
by: Jeep Owner

Jeep ownership is indeed a privilege reserved for the few, the ones that understand, and appreciate them. It's not for everyone.

moron
by: Anonymous

The guy that wrote this has had his mind rotted by Chevy ads for far to long. I would like to see him take his Chevy to half the places I have taken my TJ. Any time you build something for offroad it's going to cost, but if you are going spend the money build a Jeep and go where you want.

jeeps suck
by: The Jeep SLAYER

I agree with him jeeps do suck. thats why i drive a range rover classic. Ill out offroad any jeep. nuff siad.

Range Rover Clown
by: Anonymous

Talk about over priced. That's a Ranger Rover and they are ugly as sin.

You might want to rethink that !
by: Y J Bantum

Jeeps Suck? ... I don't think so! Jeeps were born back in a time of necessity. They had to take us to War. To survive, a Jeep had to be easy to maintain, yet rugged enough not to break down. A large request in battlefield conditions.

Since then until now Jeeps have evolved. A Jeep looks like a Jeep, no matter what year it was made, they still visually remind us of a time back when things were simpler. Through the generations, this "Simplicity" has become a tradition well known to Jeep.

If $5000 Dollars seems like a lot of money to you for a Jeep, then you are truly clueless to the world of Jeep Aftermarket. This Avenue could drive you to absolute financial ruin. But the fact remains, anyone can virtually do anything that can be thought of to a Jeep. Now... THAT is where the FUN is. Dollars loose their glimmer to passion.

Jeeps Suck? Jeeps will never Suck! It's History will never let it happen! Sooo!... grab a long neck, light up a bowl full of whatever you're growing in your garden, sit in your rocking chair on your front porch, and stare out at that mud covered Jeep in the middle of your field.

If you walk out there, wash it off, detail some connections, I bet she'll start right up! .........Chevy Boy.

Chevy vs. Jeep vs. Ford Bronco
by: Jon

I own a Ford Bronco and a Jeep CJ5. My Bronc will eat a Chevy's lunch on any given day and my CJ5 will exterminate a Land Rover.

Why can't you guys buy American, seriously? Real 4x4s were started in America and real 4x4s are MADE in America.

To a Chevy guy, they're truck is the gift of god when in most cases a Ford is built way tougher to last a lifetime. My 78 Bronco is 32 years old and is completely stock. My grandfather bought it new and it has remained unmolested its whole life and runs like a swiss watch still.

My Jeep survived its early life as a ranch truck and I brought it back from the dead without having to do anything but restore it, no replacement motor, tranny, axles, etc.

I've owned my fair share of Chevys in my lifetime and loved most of them, but they simply weren't the quality that I had with my Fords. It's your call though.

If you wanted to bash on Jeeps I think you came to the wrong place. Keep it in your Chevy forums.

"Jeep Envy Syndrome" and other short comings!
by: Andrew

Dude, sounds like you have a big impressive Chevy truck. Sorry about your small p**** though.

I am curious how a Chevy guy, and you Land Rover guys too, end up at a website devoted to Jeeps? I can?t say I ever ended up at a Chevy or Land Rover website by accident. Sounds like you all are in the closet about your love of Jeeps. You must spend hours seeking out Jeep websites lusting after the images of all those good looking Jeeps wishing you understood the ?Jeep Thang.?

I can only assume that knowing you will never have what it takes, or be man enough, to own a Jeep you lash out in anger. You?re like the guy who hates pretty women because you know you don't have what it takes to be with one. Seems to me you are suffering from ?Jeep Envy Syndrome."

Well, I?m sure that?s not the only ?Envy Syndrome? you suffer from. I hope you never see me nude in the shower at the gym. I can only imagine the raw anger you might exhibit towards me if you ever saw me in the buff.

Old Jeeps don't Suck
by: Anonymous

Ok Chevy man, I would much rather have a car with gov star on it and every movement tracked than one of those new JoKe's.

But come follow me one day in your heavy small block automatic truck and then we will let the "best car win"

Oh, and it won't be a flat wide open corn field either, so I hope you aren't too attached to those fenders of yours. Oh wait, they came from the factory rusted!!

J.E.E.P
by: Anonymous

Jeep stands for something, in case u all didn't know.

Japanese. Engineering. Eventually. Prevails.

I like jeeps, I do, but they're far too many on the road for me to buy one, I mean I see at least 10 on my way to work everyday, and more coming home. But I live in a dense area!

I recommend Toyota's Land Cruiser, a proven, tough, out of the box off-roader that kicks a**.

Junk Jeeps
by: Anonymous

Jeeps are the biggest pieces of @#&! ever built!

Chevy man
by: Cujo

Have you ever pulled out a Jeep? Didn't think so..I love rolling around in 2-wheel drive looking at all the stuck Chevys. A Jeep is a true ATV, and way to much fun for Chevy Boys..

I Agree
by: Anonymous

Consumer report graded Jeep the lowest in just about every category...Looks like Jeep's do suck. Don't get me wrong Wranglers are cool for off road, but I would never buy a Jeep as a daily driver.

Larry's Comment: Just for the record "Consumer Report" hardly likes any vehicle that is not some eco-friendly, tree hugger green, fuel sipping, European-style, girlie-man, hybrid, econo-box, Al Gore special.

Jeeps (and some American iron pickups) are tough and made for people who don't bend to political correctness.

Jeeps don't suck...it is the driver
by: Anonymous

Ok dumb a**. Jeeps are made for off roading. It depends on the driver. If you are stupid and don't know how to drive in the snow or rain then you will think Jeeps are a peace of sh** and it is not. It is all you...duh! Learn to drive and vehicles are not cell phone booths.

A word about Consumer Reports
by: YJ Bantum

Careful about the (opinions) given by Consumer Reports! Consumer Reports buys each individual vehicle and tests them to a criteria set by their own "specialists".

A Jeep and a Lexus are rated in reference to each other as if they were comparable vehicles. I could personally set standards set by a Jeep that Lexus would fail horribly. (apples to oranges).

Don't get me wrong, I've owned a Lexus, but I have driven my Jeep Wrangler YJ everyday for the past 16 years.

Consumer Report holds a high opinion of Nissan and has for some time, but if you remember earlier this year a number of technical glitches with Toyota/Nissan has resulted in numerous fatalities and millions of recalls.

This is not an exaggeration! Consumer Reports never wavered and still holds Japanese car makers with high regards .... Hmmm !!!

Now, what was your definition of "SUCKS" again?

Heeps do in fact suck...
by: Anonymous

First of all these recalls that you mention are highlighted as a problem for the Japanese manufacturers. Notice how even though American cars are the biggest crap boxes on the road, the only recalls you hear about for foreign cars. hmmmm. I wonder if the media in this country isn't just trying to help these pathetic domestic manufacturers move some of their horrendous products off the lot. If you actually take the time and go to any domestic makers' site and look at the recalls you will see just as many active recalls if not more than you will of certain foreign recalls. Especially Chrysler a.k.a. HEEP. Secondly have you ever seen a HEEP towing anything out of a tough spot- nope I didn't think so. translation for trail rated= tow rated.
LAND CRUISERS RULE, HEEPS SUCK.

Be thankful for Jeep
by: Jon

Jeep inspired Land Rover and Toyota to make capable 4x4s so you should be thankful for Jeep regardless. Jeeps rock and I will always own them. Early Broncos kick a** too. I have a '78 big Bronco and it kicks a** on the trail. It leaves most Chevy's in the dust.

RE Jeeps suck
by: John

It's because of a Jeep that you are free to say that!

Jeeps suck?
by: vdubdork67

Despite that everyone has their own opinion,it does suspect that why would one go through all that trouble just to bash another marque.

No life and lots of time on their hands I suppose. I will admit I was once a Jeep hater myself,due to an accident involving one when I was a kid. I had the blinders on,and only could see Volkswagens as "the car" for me.

Been humbled,after receiving a '75 CJ5 basket case as payment for a debt. It sat for about a year during which time I was unable to sell it, much less get rid of it.

Gave in one day and decided to put this beast together, since all the parts were present and I got tired of looking at it in pieces. Four months later another CJ5 was back on the road under it's own power. It was then I realized that there are "other" cars besides VWs!

Sadly the Jeep was totaled while my nephew was borrowing it, but if given the chance at another Jeep, I'd jump on it fast! Although still partial with them rear engined cars, I've been keeping an eye out for a potential Jeep project.

Jeeps suck? HELL NO!!!

Jeeps are not Modern Technology
by: Anonymous

Jeeps have little to zero practical purpose. I own a 91 Nissan 4x4 truck. It can take jumps and slide corners at 70 mph and will slide all 4 wheels on pavement when cranking hard turns. It can climb any if not steeper hills than a jeep because it is longer and has much better handling. Plus its a truck = way more practical utility. It is way safer and gets better gas mileage. Also about half the price. Looks way better. Jeeps have the same technology now as they did 50 years ago but cost way more. If you need a jeep you have either a small garage, bad taste, or need to drive over tree stumps to get out of your yard. Durable sure, practical no. Its sad that you can get a much nicer Land rover for the same price and really get the ladies, but still be able to climb stairs. All in all Jeeps are slow, dangerous at speed, archaic technology, and little everyday use.

Nissan 4x4 TRUCK ???
by: Anonymous

First and foremost, Nissan doesn't make a real truck! Ford and Chevy make Trucks!!! Nissan will get you from one rice paddy to the next with a full bed of seedlings. But in the true world of trucks Nissan isn't even mentioned.

As for sliding corners at 70 mph .... What? Do you think you're "the fast and the furious"??? You sound more like "the stupid and the delusional".

Why nobody takes Jeep seriously
by: Anonymous

Jeeps do not compete in any offroad racing circuits. They have never been known for anything but Baja 1000 racing. Look at Ford, Chevy, TOYOTA, NISSAN. They all have offroad RACING technology. If you want to go slow, walk or get tracks. Scared slow kids like to jeep, not rally. Even Mitsubishi rallys. IF IT HASN'T BEEN RACED IT HASN'T BEEN PROVEN. And don't give a speal about army jeeps. They were Willys, not Jeeps/Dodge. Remember the names, tufftruck, trophy truck, and monster truck. Jeeps will never be famous, make anyone famous, or win anything.

Larry's Reply: The vast majority of us who own Jeeps did not buy them to race...or rally...or jump over school buses.

And I would dare say that the vast majority of Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Nissan, Toyota (etc) truck owners will never enter a race or rally event.

We love our Jeeps because they do exactly what WE want them to do...simple as that.

And trust me when I say...we owners take our Jeeps seriously. If you cannot deal with that...then you can take your rally trucks and place them in your baja regions.

Taking Jeeps seriously
by: YJ Bantum

ATK Performance Engines began producing the I6/4.7L Stroker for Mopar last year . This engine premiered at last years SEMA convention in Las Vegas. It's a direct replacement for the '91 to '98 Jeep Wrangler YJ/TJ 4.0L engine. TEAM ATK won last years Baja 1000 with the same engine and technology. Now that's SERIOUS Jeep Engine Performance. Just because the fiberglass body resembles a truck doesn't mean that's what's under the hood. Lift that shell off and you'll barely recognize the chassis at all.

So ... If you think a vehicles validity is proven by speed, then you need to seriously catch-up!!!

Why get a Jeep
by: Anonymous

Why get a Jeep when you can buy a Toyota, Nissan, Ford, or Chevy with an extreme offroad package for the same price? And as far as a hot engine making a Jeep great, total bs, Ford has Roush, Chevy has Edelbrock, Nissan has Nismo, Toyota has TRD. What good does a huge engine do if you have a tiny wheelbase and can't go over 40 mph off road? Sure you can go over rough roads but so can any other truck. Even if a trophy truck isn't a real truck chassis it is very close. There is no teched-out version of a Jeep because they are not worth the time or money.

Reply: Why get a Jeep? by Anonymous talking out his A**!
by: YJ Bantum

Sure ... every engine has an aftermarket company enhancing it's performance. What phrase did you regurgitate? " IF IT HASN'T BEEN RACED IT HASN'T BEEN PROVEN".

ATK Performance took the checkered flag at the Baha 1000 and TOYOTA WASN'T THERE !!! Nissan has what? Toyota has TRD? Sounds like something that's stuck between the sole and heal of my boot. Also... you ever looked at the chassis of Terrible's Racing Team Vehicle? I have, and it's all tubular construction! It looks like an over-sized sandrail on steroids, NOT A TRUCK! NOBODY races a truck frame alone. They are too heavy and reinforced in all the wrong places.

As for your uneducated large engine and short wheelbase remark ... The I6 by ATK isn't necessarily a large engine, just 290 ft.pounds of Low End Torque right out of the crate (oops! That might be a little over your head!), and Jeep hasn't had a short wheelbase since 1987.

Chrysler reinvented Jeep with production of the YJ. And who widened the wheel base? Lee Iacocca, CEO of Chrysler division, author and inventor of the Ford Mustang. (Hey Anonymous! taking notes?)

Let me address some more stupid remarks you made. Extreme Off-Road packages are Marketing tools. Not to be confused with off-road Performance.

Last but not least, Bantam invented (Jeep) over 70 years ago, not Willys and not AMC. All 3 made Jeeps for the War effort. They were all given the same blue-prints so parts were interchangeable on the battlefield. Willys was awarded the bulk of the production and they were all more than likely nicknamed "Jeep" from a comic strip character.

Now for the (no teched-out version of a Jeep) comment. The new Jeep JK was a collaboration between Chrysler/Mercedes Benz. Now it's been a while since I was in Munich, but from what I remember, they had some pretty High Tech stuff there!

It's obvious (Anonymous) has never been to these race rallys or any off-road events he spews about. Get some visual and hands on experience, not just looking at pictures in a truck magazine. Try attending SEMA this December in Las Vegas. Out here in the Southwest we take our off-roading seriously. Also check out the Annual Jeep Rally held every year in Utah, it's called MOAB.

In other words get yourself educated. Do your research before you enter a Jeep Forum website. You're truly uninformed and way out-classed here!

Toyota huh?
by: Anonymous

http://www.automotoportal.com/article/jeep-wrangler-climbs-highest-volcano-on-earth-sets-world-record

The
One
You
Ought
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Avoid.

Wait, what was that you were saying about LOLyotas climbing better/higher/wharblegarble?

Cry more please. and when you're done, get a real truck and apologise to the rest of the class.

Even the government doesn't like Jeep
by: Anonymous

What utility does a Jeep have over a 4-wheeler other than sitting on your but and using a steering wheel? Why does the military not use Jeep anymore? Could they really not compete with the GM Hummer? The border patrol uses more Dodge Chargers than Jeep, and I have never seen the forest service use them. Pre-runners are not a tube chassis. They are a regular truck with a suspension upgrade. They are used to scout off road routes before the race.

Oh NO !!! Anonymous is back making more stupid remarks!
by: Y J Bantum

The U.S. military do not hate Jeeps!!! Jeeps are revered in the pages of Military History. Jeeps are not used by The Military anymore because they were replaced by the HUM V...Just like WW-2 Half-tracks were replaced by the Armored Personal Carrier(APC)...Or the Sherman Tank retired to make room for the M1A1 Abrams...Or the B-52 is now the Stealth Bomber.

Yes...Pre-Runners are modified pick-up trucks, and the Pre-runner class is what they race in.

Hey Anonymous ??? You seem to have an incredible passion for trucks. If so...(pause to LOL)...why are you driving a Toyota? If it's to "pick-up the ladies", like you said...you really need to rethink your GAME!!!

JEEPS SUCK
by: Anonymous

YA..why spend $5,000 for a stock Jeep when I only have $3,000 into my 8 in. lift Bronco with locked front and rear on brand new 35's, low gears, heavy duty bumpers, a 12,500 lb. winch and new paint job...and ya that's 3 G's for everything.

BRING IT ON JEEP!

Get a Jeep, drop a V8 in it, you might be sap
by: jeep warior

Get a Jeep drop, a V8 in it and you might be surprised. Get in, shut up and hang on. Jeeps are far better made than some Land Rover "want to be".

Dear Chevy Man
by: Anonymous

Yes, I have pulled out Jeeps. In fact I pull out more Jeeps than any thing else with my gen 2 Bronco. Even when I had my stock Toyota I pulled out my buddies 6 in. lift Cherokee all the time, and had to drag him home off the trail cause he broke down.

BRING IT ON JEEPS!

Pay Attention
by: Laughing at you all!

Every vehicle has its niche, its place in the world, otherwise auto manufacturers wouldn't build them because then they wouldn't make any money.

Chevy makes great, long lasting, hard working trucks. Anyone who disputes this point has not looked into statistical data that shows the clear cut evidence. That isn't to say Ford, Dodge, and Toyota don't make great trucks too, because they do. Toyota for instance makes a great small pickup that will literally run forever with minimal maintenance if it only sees light duty (nowadays we call it the Tacoma).

It makes me sick and appalls me that people are so disrespectful to the Jeep, which comes from hard-working background and has evolved to be a very versatile machine for those who want one. If anyone can name a single pick-up or SUV with a convertible top that has sold more than a few thousand units I'll retract this statement (One exception, maybe the samurai but that's basically a jeep anyway!)

Jeeps are excellent off road vehicles because they have a very short wheel-base, this makes it much easier to drive in off road conditions because there's a lot less ways to get stuck when your wheels are close together, just like when you walk uphill you take shorter steps (you feel like your taking bigger steps because you have to lift your feet higher and its hard work, but trust me, you're not covering more ground).

They weigh almost nothing though, which is important if you want to pull someone out of a hole, the hill they are stuck at is pulling them back towards you. That's why heavier trucks are great at pulling people out, especially ones with a lot of low-range torque (diesels!).

I've tried to cover some of the things that everyone here has argued about just so they can see the error in their ways. Jeeps are great vehicles for their purpose and they are a lot of fun! They have their limitations believe it or not, its a fact.

YAY FOR JEEPS!!!!

GM
by: Anonymous

I have owned and worked on Chevy and Jeeps for 30 years. Chevy's are much better built, more durable, and more dependable for getting you out of sticky situations or off roading. And if you don't have a Willys Jeep then your full of it because Chrysler didn't help America win any wars...I'm pretty sure they use Hummers today which are made by GM...

"Japanese. Engineering. Eventually. Prevails."
by:

I think that Jeep gets most of its bad rap from being affiliated to Chrysler...

Jeeps and V8s
by: Anonymous

Who got the stupid idea of putting a V8 in a Jeep? Simply it's too much power and adds a lot of weight and gas money. They are too short and unstable at high speed to use the power, and low gears make the proper torque for rough terrain, or rock crawling. If the idea is to turn huge tires then get a monster truck or a tractor. Please don't say you need a V8 for those huge wheels because you spent more than 25K for a mud bogger.

Jeep wrote the book
by: Anonymous

Jeeps rule. Why own a copy when you can own the original. I am proud to own a Jeep American legend. To heck with Toyota's!

Jeeps are the Best
by: Anonymous

Trucks are okay, but Jeeps are better. I have a 2000 Cherokee sport with 32 inch tires and it has not gotten stuck in anything at all! I once drove a truck with 32 inch tires through 3 inches of mud and it got stuck! I drove my Jeep through two feet of mud and it went through it smoothly!

Jeeps are the best. They are the icon of America!
My Jeep helped win a war, your truck mows my lawn!
Also, if Jeeps suck, then how come there's a Jeep Jamboree every single year? How come thousands of people take their Jeeps there to go off-roading and have fun? Hmmmmm? How come there is no Truck-Jamboree? Oh, that's right, trucks were only made to pull trailers and haul stuff away.

Jeeps are the true off-road machines! God bless America for creating Jeeps! Jeeps are the best and always will be! The only Jeeps that suck are the Jeep Compass and Commander! They suck! The Rubicon, Wrangler, and Cherokee are the best Jeeps.

Overall statement here..... JEEPS RULE!!!!!

Jeeps Rule
by: Anonymous

Jeeps are the best 4x4 vehicles in the world! Trucks = good, Land Rovers = better, Jeeps = Best!!
Okay? Enough said!

I agree
by: Anonymous

Ford Raptor, nuff said.

Silly flame wars
by: Eric

Racing has very little to do with what you actually buy.

There is no such thing as a truly reliable car. every model has a car which just fails and each model has some sort of quality control problem with it.

A persons driving habits have more to do with what happens reliability wise.
If you want to talk about the most reliable try to beat the 1.8-2.0 liter Volvo B20 and B18 near 3,000,000 million miles on the engine with one rebuild no matter where you look every car has been beaten by another in something.
For example Chevys and Broncos used to be grim reapers getting flipped over and killing their drivers and passengers on a regular basis but had some good rep for "reliability"

My dads 1966 Volvo has more advanced suspension than the newest corvette(LEAF SPRINGS!ON CAR FOR 50K!)

I got a Jeep and I'll say Jeeps rot like a ripe banana outside but they just keep on going no matter what, especially when it comes to going up a steep rock slope, boulders, and deep mud.
tTe 2.5L Jeep 4cyl goes where the V8 Chevy does but doesn't put two foot deep tracks in the ground.

A CHEVY ISN'T BETTER THAN A JEEP AND A JEEP ISN'T BETTER THAN A CHEVY. A FERRARI WILL BEAT ANY OFFROADER ON THE ROAD PUT THAT DOESN'T REALLY MEAN BETTER CAR CONSIDERING MOST MAINTENANCE ON A FERRARI HAS TO BE PREFORMED WITH THE ENGINE OUT OF THE CAR WITH NEW OIL EVERY 2000 MILES.

All about what YOU are looking for in YOUR car not what OTHERS see in THEIR cars.

Stupid
by: Anonymous

I do not understand why everyone is arguing over the internet. It is the same way on any other forum and YouTube. Offroading shouldn't be about what vehicle you drive. It should be about having fun. I have two Jeeps, but half of my buddies have Toyotas. We all go wheeling together.

OK, OK, OK
by: Anonymous

Tell me how a long bed pickup with no weight over the rear wheels is going to out-wheel a short wheelbase Jeep. Pickups are great, but they where made for hauling and towing. Jeeps where designed for the offroad. If you ever see a pickup that is wheeled as much as a jeep then it probably needs a new body.

Stupid truck owners!
by: Anonymous

IF JEEPS SUCK SO BAD THEN WHY DOES EVERY COMPETITION ROCK CRAWLER RESEMBLE A JEEP? IF TRUCKS WERE SO GOOD AT OFFROADING THEN DON'T YOU THINK THAT ROCK CRAWLERS WOULD BE BASED OFF OF PICKUPS, NOT JEEPS? THIS POINT ALSO GOES TO THE DUDE WITH THE CRAPPY LAND ROVER.

He is right and wrong.
by: Anonymous

He is right in the sense that they (Jeeps) are the most unreliable vehicles ever built. In the first month I bought mine, the brakes went and then the rear pinion bearing. Then a piston skirt broke and wrecked the engine. I installed a new one and now 10,500 miles later, there is a slapping sound from under the valve cover and from inside the crank case. Replaced the radiator twice, fixed a massive transmission fluid leak, signals don't work, leaks coolant, electrical shorts all the time.

Now as for anyone being able to out offroad me? Never.

Most Unreliable vehicles ever built? REALLY!!!
by: YJ Bantum

Whoa!!! ...

This isn't an unreliable Jeep you're talking about, this is a nightmare!!! Catch us up to speed on what kind of Jeep this is! In all my years, I've never heard of this many things wrong with one Jeep! Obviously it's not a new Jeep.

The brakes went? (where did they go?) The rear pinion bearings? That's a real weird one! Usually the pinion and gears crunch before your bearings give out. If ever! (Did you ever check the level of the synthetic gear oil in your differentials? Did you ever check your rear differential for leaks?) Piston skirt ... do you mean a piece of the piston broke off in the piston bore? That usually happens from poor lubrication or excessive RPM's. So your fix was to install a new one. (A new what? A new engine? A new piston? You said the engine was wrecked!) Now 10,500 miles you hear a loud tapping sound under your valve cover. Have you checked the oil levels? Has your engine ever been overheated on more that one occasion? Two radiators??? Really? Leaks coolant? From where? The hoses? Transmission leaks massive amounts of fluids? (The AX-15 Transmission is the cornerstone to Jeep's legacy! Did someone punch a hole in the bottom of the tranny?) Signals don't work and wiring shorts out all the time? Wow!!!

First on all...it sounds like this Jeep has been neglected for a very long time. Any vehicle has to be maintained. Not even mentioning (preventive maintenance) DUH!!!

This Jeep either needs to be overhauled and restored or hauled off to a junk yard...But don't blame it on Unreliability!!! This is an Obvious and horrific case of neglect!!!

What's good?
by: kyledudeman

Jeeps win wars. What does your import do?

2 big disappointments
by: Anonymous

Jeeps do suck. At least Honda stands behind their products. When I had an electrical issue with my civic, Honda paid for it even though it was not a recall or a safety concern. Jeep wouldn't help cover a shot engine after only owning the Liberty 3 1/2 years or the control arm on a 2 year old Patriot. Maybe Jeeps used to be good, but since 2000, I have owned 2 because I am required to have an "American" car for work. They are a complete piece of crap & waste of money.

Jeeps Suck????
by: Steve Wilson

I usually do not get into vehicle bashing as long as it originated in the good ole U.S.A.

I have been privledged to own, Fords, Jeeps, Chevy. Dodge "Mopar for those who like it", and I have 5 Jeeps as I write: 3 Wranglers, CJ7 and a Grand Cherokee Limited. I also own a Chevy Tahoe and I also own a '89 Ford F350.

If I am going into the woods I would have to stick with my Jeeps. ALL OF THEM. For my everyday save my butt ride my Tahoe is a fine riding vehicle, but when I have to get down right dirty and have a work horse I will stick with the Ford F350.

Each of these vehicles were made for different applications, plain and simple, each perform greatly, but I will have to say Land Rover's suck. Worse electrical system other than Jaguar, and your pockets better be deep.

As for Toyota's the older Toyota's were a great truck, but now they want to play in a big boys yard. Bring it and my 350 will pull your sorry butt side ways.

I love American vehicles, all of them and yes I will spend more working on my Jeep because I want too. I can do a 4" lift for 500.00 or less, but not on my Chevy ($1680.00), Ford ($1800.00). Dollar for dollar the Jeep is way cheaper to fix than the Chevy and definitely cheaper than Ford.

Gentlemen, please remember what they were built for and I think we all can get along even if a Jeep is pulling someone out.

Thanks for reading my ramble and God Bless our Service Men and Women, and Please God Bless the U.S.A. once more

I hate my Wrangler
by: Anonymous

I've had my Jeep for 3 months now and every time I go through a little bit of mud or water it is another thousand dollars to fix. They suck so much. The design is even terrible. They put hoses for air right above the axle. When you get mud or water in them your engine breaks. Take my advice don't buy a Jeep. Buy an F-150.

@ I hate my Wrangler
by: YJ Bantum

Just interested to know, what year is your wrangler? Is it fairly new? Or is it a CJ, YJ, or TJ? I'm not really familiar with any air hoses in the wheel wells! Or down anywhere near the differential or axles themselves. If you like to wheel around in water and mud alot you should consider a cold air induction system or maybe a snorkel.

Now, about your comment on design flaws. If you are schooled in engineering and design then you should be able to get around, under the hood with no problem. The only place water or mud can enter your engine is through your throttle body where your air filter feeds it. You have to ask yourself how could that possibly happen. OEM air filter systems are not made to high performance standards, but what they do is keep your engine flowing with clean air. I'm starting to think you don't know what your talking about!

So before you head off into the wild blue yonders, take a moment and visually inspect your engine. Get your hands dirty! This is an off road vehicle and you are going to drive this vehicle OFF ROAD! Away from civilization! No dealership to hand $1000 to repair what you should have been able to prevent in the first place!

Getting an F-150 isn't going to replace your own lack of common sense. Preventive Maintenance is your only line of defense. It doesn't matter if you are driveing a truck or a Jeep. Anything mechanical is capable of failing. How much of a problem and inconvenience it causes is up to you.

I Hate My Jeep???
by: Steve Wilson

Was your Jeep on its roll bars??? You do realize it's a Jeep, not a boat! The Gentleman after your crazy comment is correct, did you fit it with a snorkel?? These vehicles do what they are made to do. They are light duty 4x4 vehicles to safely take you and the family out through trails, maybe on a beach, trails in the mountains, to go where the average vehicle won't go. Before you say anything about speed, it doesn't do 6 seconds on the quarter mile either "just for the record"

The CJ7 and YJ's are very good vehicles. It is highly recommended to do proper maintenance after you sink it in the swamp up over the axles and vent tubes. Need to clean the undercarriage, and if you wheel alot change the diff oil, grease the bearings, check the brakes, lines, etc.

One last feature you can't or won't do with a sorry butt Land Rover or the other wanna be vehicles is leave the top off. I happen to love my Jeeps. I happen to love the freedom it gives me when I want to ride the trails in South Jersey, next weekend taking my C55 AMG rock climbing. I will let you know how I make out. I hope it doesn't get stuck.

Chevys vs Jeeps
by: Anonymous

I've owned more Chevys in my life than Jeeps. In fact, I have owned only one Jeep whereas I have owned three Chevys. And I'll tell you why that is...My Chevys, while my experiences with the brand were good overall, were nothing special.

The reason I have only had one Jeep is that I cannot imagine parting with my Wrangler. And if you think the price is too high for Jeeps, then you probably have not given consideration to the depreciation of your Chevy vs that of a Jeep.

Agreed, Jeeps really do suck.
by: Anonymous

I have a Grand Cherokee and after the tail light wiring being a problem, the gas gauge breaking (F to E, F to E, etc. etc. etc.), not being able to get the U-Joints off the driveshaft, lights flickering constantly, the window going down by itself, not turning on, the blower only working on high, and the horn not shutting off until I unplugged the battery, I too agree that Jeeps SUCK SUCK SUCK!

I used to LOVE them but now, I will never own anything built by the geniuses (said facetiously) at Chrysler again. Utter S&$T

Jeeps Really Do Suck?
by: Steven Wilson

Anonymous, you must have Gremlins. How in the heck can that be? Lights flickering, that's usually a bad ground "Loose", or the alternator. Not saying switch isn't bad either. Window going down on its own, that is a bad window switch, and the horn blowing, did it have an alarm? Was it grounded properly and is the horn relay OK?

Other than the alternator you are talking $120.00 in parts and the U-joints are $17.00 each at Advanced Auto Parts. With a socket and a vise you can change these no problem.

Any vehicle can have problems. Did you buy this new or used? Do you follow the vehicle maintenance book? If you are handy these items are very easy to do. Sorry your experience with a Jeep was bad. I love them they are easy to work on, you can upgrade them relatively cheap and they are fun as heck.

P.S. Don't forget when Chrysler owned them they weren't $35,000 for a Wrangler or TJ. What the heck, they are now. I Love My Jeeps.

Chevy vs Ford vs Jeep
by: Anonymous

The ONLY Chevy I will own is a Camaro. The ONLY Ford I will own is a Mustang. Ford and Chevy SUV's don't hold a light to a Jeep..end of story. Plus, why get on here and bad mouth something that doesn't affect your life? You don't see us goin and talkin crap about the K5 Blazer, which is junk, or the Bronco which depending on the year was garbage. Get a life little boys. Go cry to your mommy and daddy and tell them you want a big boy car and get a JEEP!

Good grief ...
by: Anonymous

Any off road junky, no matter what he drives, is an accomplished do-it-yourself mechanic! Jeeps, because of their simplicity are a no brainer for (DIY) mechanics. These comments in here about ultimate lemon machinery cracks me up! How can so many things be wrong with one vehicle? I think most of the electrical problems mentioned on this page were caused by spilled Latte's...

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